This past two weeks I have been working on Judy's Kinney line. This line has been considered somewhat of a dead end, because Judy's father, Ernest, said that his father was born in Ireland. And many years later, Judy found the birth of a James Edward Kenny and was certain that it was the birth of her grandfather. My research disagrees with both, but I am confident that I am right. Why? Edward James Kinney died when Ernest was 11 years old, so it is likely that they never discussed Edward's birth. My chain of research goes like this: There is no dispute that this is Edward's death: DEATH Certified Copy of an Entry of Death Pursuant to the Births and Deaths Registration Act 1953 Registration District West Derby 1921 Death in the Sub-District of Everton North West in the County of Liverpool CB No. 220 When and where died: Fourteenth August 1921, 130 Beacon Lane VD Name and surname: Edward James Kinney Sex: Male Age: 41 Occupation: Cutter in Rubber Hosepipe Works Cause of Death: 1. Cancer of the Bladder 6 Months Certified by J. C. Bacter LRCP Signature, description and residence of informant: Edith Kinney, widow of deceased. Present at the death. 130 Beacon Lane. When registered: Fifteenth August 1921Signature of registrar: John J. Ford Certified to be a true copy of an entry in a register in my custody. (signature) Superintendent Registrar 23rd November 1977 Date. The marriage is a year earlier than family tradition, but is defintely the right people. MARRIAGE St.Peters Church, Everton. November 28th 1903 Edward James KINNEY (age) 25 Batchelor (occupation) Cutter in rubber works(address) 2 Cornwall Street (father) James Kinney - deceased (occupation) Painter & Decorator Edith DAVIDSON (age) 22 Spinster - (address) 2 Cornwall Street (father) Richard Davidson - deceased (occupation) Iron moulder Witnesses: Ralph Davidson - Rachel Davidson This was a major breakthrough. He is the ONLY Edward James Kinney in Lancashire in this census, and his father's name matches "James" as given at the marriage. 1881 British Census Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation William James KINNEY Head M Male 38 Ireland Mariner Jane KINNEY Wife M Female 30 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Lilla KINNEY Daur U Female 11 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar Margaret KINNEY Daur U Female 9 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar Susanna KINNEY Daur U Female 7 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar Edward James KINNEY Son U Male 5 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar William KINNEY Son U Male 2 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar Thomas KINNEY Son U Male 9 m Liverpool, Lancashire, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Crompton St 3 Census Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341862 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3600 / 123 Page Number 47 Lastly ... BIRTH Certified copy of an entry of birth Given at the General Register Office Application number COL007642 Registration District Liverpool1875 Birth in the Sub-district of St. Martin Liverpool in the County of Lancaster No. 191 When and where born: Third October 1875, 3 Crompton Street Name: Edward James Sex: Boy Name of Father: William James Kinney Occupation: Ship Painter Name of Mother: Jane Kinney formerly Bullock Informant: Jane Kinney, mother, Crompton Street When Registered : Twenty fifth October 1875 Registrar: J Hebson, Deputy Registrar