Who is the mother of Jane and Allan Welsh? I received this email message: -----Original Message----- From: "Alastair Downey" Date: 14/08/2010 08:16 PM Subject: Re: RICHARD WELSH & Margaret SAMSON RICHARD WELSH & Margaret SAMSON The marriage entry from the Auchinleck, Ayrshire, Scotland OPR for Richard WELSH & Margaret SAMSON states they were both of this parish and they were married at Knockroon Knockroon is the name of a farm that the SAMSON family lived on By the time of the 1851 Census for Scotland Margaret was listed as follows Dwelling: 1 Gateside Civil Parish: Auchinleck, Ayrshire, Scotland Source: Volume 577, ED 4 Page 1 Jean SAMSON, Hd, wid, 75, Retired Farmers Widow; Cumnock, Ayrshire Margreat SAMSON, dau, unm, 42, House Servant; Auchinleck, Ayrshire James Samson WELSH, Grnson, 16, Soliceters Clerk, Auchinleck, Ayrshire From a headstone in the Auchinleck Churchyard this seems to be the same family Erected by John SAMSON, Knockroon, In memory of father James died 7.9.1821 age 55, mother Jane SMITH died 27.6.1854 age 79, sister Margaret 7.2.1862 age 53. Comment? Alastair Downey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Wow! Besides Sarah Smith being shown as Jane (Jean) Smith, it had an even bigger surprise. If Margaret Samson Welsh was still living with her son James Samson Welsh in 1851 and died in Auchinleck, Ayrshire, Scotland in 1862, I need to reconsider her as my ancestor. I believed that she had come to Canada with her husband, given birth to Jane and Allan, and died in Canada before 1852. In 1852 Richard is shown as married to Margaret Hunter (widow of Adam Linnen). Jane and Allan are shown as children in their family. 1851/1852 Census of Ontario/Upper Canada/Canada West, Grenville, Edwardsburgh township Richard Welsh, farmer, b Scotland, Free Pres., age 43 Margaret Welsh, b Scotland, Free Pres., age 51 Elizabeth Linnen, b Canada, Free Pres., age 20 Robert Linnen, b Canada, Free Pres., age 23 William Linnen, b Canada, Free Pres., age 17 George Linnen, b Canada, Free Pres., age 15 Jane Welsh, b Canada, Free Pres., age 11 Allan Welsh, b Canada, Free Pres., age 8 So who is the mother of Jane and Allan? It seems unlikely to be Margaret Samson, unless she came to Canada and later returned to Scotland, leaving the young children with Richard. A more likely candidate would be Margaret Hunter Linnen, although Frederick Hunter's history says that they are Richard's children from a previous marriage.

http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~database/HUNTER.htm

Other documents from Scotland and Canada refer to Richard Welsh as a shoe maker. The Hunter history agrees that this is the same man, so I have no doubt on this point. But who is the mother of Jane and Allan? Any thoughts? Bill http://billbuchanan.byethost17.com